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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

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  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  Which is ironic considering he just said...

  I can play this game all night if you insist.

  (Which I think says a lot about Cedar's approach to this. Just another forum debate.)

  Now now. He's probably busy handing out volunteer assignments, answering his emails, or working on his 'book'.
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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  According to Juan's post on page 2:

  Then I noticed as I scanned through the names that one person in particular seemed to be referring the majority of these unknowns. At that point I brought my concerns to the attention of the other advisors and the officers of AAWA. Their first reaction was that this was not necessarily a bad thing.

  Notice that he freely admitted that even he (Juan) had expressed his concerns about people being outed. He makes it perfectly clear that the board at AWAA was delighted at this and thought that it wasn't a bad thing. The publicity for the group clearly overrode any concern for any damage this might cause others.

  At that point Bo had to make a decision about what to do with our Facebook page and we all agreed to let him just go ahead and make it "open to all."

  Now we have an admission that this was indeed now an 'open' group. Not 'closed', not 'secret', but 'open'.

  It was only after we took that step and the whole affair became news here on JWN that we started getting complaints that some of those people who had been "referred" or "recommended" to the site were unhappy that someone had done that without their knowledge.

  It was only after the group had been created 'open' that this blew up into a PR mess for the AWAA. It's still not clear what happened afterwards, but it became only closed or secret after it was once 'open'. It might be secret now, but it was open before and that's what all this fuss is about.

  For what it is worth, I think Juan is the only one here that is giving us any clear and honest answers, and he deserves to be commended for that. The same can not be said concerning the behaviour of others involved in this.
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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  Per request via PM, fuzzywiglet would still like a direct answer to these points on page 6:

  2) Even if it couldn't/shouldn't show up, it's unethical to force-add people. Your coordinator DID force-add people, she force-added a LOT of people, and it's become clear over the past several days that a huge chunk of those people had no idea they were force-added, were not notified by Facebook or did not see the notification, and are still members. Now that you are aware they were added without permission, you don't get to presume that they want to be a member unless they figure it out.

  3) Since someone force-added 1,000 people, and now you're trying to say they could have been referred from other ex-JW FB groups, who's to say they didn't force-add people masquerading as ex-JWs, who they believed to be ex-JWs? We already know there are JWs who do that, start a mole FB account, join ex-JW FB boards, and collect apostate names, and then publish them on sites like "Apostate Watchdog". Now they're very possibly inside your "secret" group, and they can see names of 1,000 people who did not necessarily consent to having their name affiliated with that group. If an "out" ex-JW makes an informed decision to put their name on your group, secret or not, that is one thing. But it is not your place to decide that for them.
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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

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  2. scandals

  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  My suggestion is to start a new thread that directly appeals to the AAWA directors and have people voice their support (or non-support) for bringing the FB group down immediately.
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  Facebook Watchtower 'Support' Page

  by jw07 in

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  [if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:officedocumentsettings> <o:allowpng /> </o:officedocumentsettings> </xml><!

  [endif]this may or may not have been done before: .

  1. i'm thinking of creating a 'pro-jw' facebook page.

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  Yeah, it's sort of like joining a group on Facebook with "Anti-Watchtower" and "Activists" in the title. They will read no further.
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  Is There Other Sites Many Members Are Bailing To? M.I.A JWN People, where did they go?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  since i joined the forum i noticed more than a few people have not been posting, what is going on?

  i received a couple of emails from other groups asking me to join their new forms with a promised technology, i wondered how they got my email address and thought it be strange.. .

  people during the first year of a great change might post daily to any support chat or message board they feel is going to aid them.

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  You should feel happy for such people. Maybe they found a new boyfriend/girlfriend and the relationship is going somewhere. Perhaps they started a family or are busy raising one. That wouldn't leave much time for JWN.
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  Facebook Watchtower 'Support' Page

  by jw07 in

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  [if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:officedocumentsettings> <o:allowpng /> </o:officedocumentsettings> </xml><!

  [endif]this may or may not have been done before: .

  1. i'm thinking of creating a 'pro-jw' facebook page.

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  People aren't that stupid, JWs included. The minute you start posting items that are not in line with WT doctrine, their 'apostate light' goes on and they will disregard and quickly exit. It's like throwing in amended pages in Watchtowers and leaving them at Assembly Halls. That thing goes directly into the trash once the ruse is up.
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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  Therein lies the risk of launching something with much fanfare on a discussion board. This is probably why the site owners have been wary of people posting links and advertising new sites here in the past. People who have been outed or are otherwise irritated have every right to vent on this forum. No one is asking for an 'off with their heads', but perhaps a better response to a cardinal rule being broken in ex-JW-land - privacy and confidentiality. The group should have been shut down immediately, rather than the haphazard response of 'well, sorry, if you want off then remove yourself please'. I've read some vague references to people inside and outside of AAWA being at fault. A statement or even better, a posting from the guilty party here would be useful so people can adequately express their feelings and the fallout from these actions. Asking who exactly did this is not altogether an unreasonable request. No real names or addresses are needed. No lynchings are scheduled.
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  Cowardly Governing Body waits 3 years after Raymond Franz death to publish NuLite on FDS

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the early 80's raymond franz had already exposed the embarrassing fact that all of the annointed around the globe aren't really "represented" by the governing body as everyone around that time was led to believe (by what had been published up to that time).

  when ray finally brought this to light (in crisis of conscience), the gb practically went into radio silence on this subject, then waited only 3 years after ray's death to admit that they consider only themselves worthy enough to hold the fds title.

  narcisistic power-hungry cowards!

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  I too doubt Ray's death had anything to do with it. It had already been de facto for many years, and now was an opportunity to make it de jure. If anything, what Ray said would have been a reason not to officially change the doctrine as it would have confirmed that what he had been saying was correct all along. My speculation would be that with the growing number of anointed partakers in recent years, the GB had been flooded with unwanted and uninvited advice from people who truly believed they were a part of the FDS channel. Some more assertive ones might have tried to get a firmer answer as to why this 'new light' was not being considered, and the GB just decided to come out with it and permanantly disconnect the anointed ones from Bethel and elsewhere from the FDS label.